Check out our new web site where you can see all that is happening and also download a copy of our recent CFM Newsletter. www.cafiremuseum.org
Saturday, February 3, 2018
CFM web site & Newsletter
Check out our new web site where you can see all that is happening and also download a copy of our recent CFM Newsletter. www.cafiremuseum.org
Friday, February 2, 2018
Where have we been ??
I had not been on for some time and when I tried to get back on the blog did not recognize my user name or password. After many tries and no time to keep trying, I finally got on.
Friday, July 19, 2013
CFM Mission Viejo Shop
Some of the apparatus at our Shop
More of the shop apparatus
The shop has give us a place to maintain our
apparatus
CFM update July 2013
California
Fire Museum – Safety Learning Center
Update 7-19-2013
By: Don Croucher,
President
The progress
of the California fire Museum-Safety Learning Center (CFM) has ramped up so
much so, it has been difficult to find time to write articles, as well as the
newsletter. In the past several months things have really begun to happen for
CFM. One of the problems we had in the past was the donation to us of many
vintage fire apparatus which we felt necessary to accept and save. The problem
is to save vintage apparatus, you need space to store, people to work on them,
and if you are going to use them, you need to continue registration with the
DMV, plus have them insured. Much of
this is costly in which the more you have, the more money it costs. When a rig
is offered, especially if there is some sort of historical significance, it is
very hard to turn it down. Because once you turn it down, usually it moves on
to someone else or is scrapped because the owner can no longer afford to keep
it. Usually if it moves on with someone else, it could migrate to another part
of the country where it never may be seen again.
At present
CFM has 20 fire apparatus on our roster, give or take. I say give or take because some are on loan
to other organizations and some are in the process of being donated to other
organizations and some may end up being scrapped. A handful are in operation
and used at events and special requests. Some are in pretty rough shape, but
hold a significant historical value and must be evaluated as to whether they
should be restored or not.
We have a
1960 Seagrave pumper that originally came from the Anaheim Fire Department, was
donated to a volunteer fire department in Northern California which in turn
donated it to CFM several years ago. At present we are in negotiations to donate
this back to the Anaheim Fire Department. The bottom line is, we are in the
business of trying to save our fire service history, whether it be apparatus,
memorabilia, or photographs. And, if in the process, we can facilitate any of
this back to its original department, we will do so. Otherwise, we will save it,
store it and use it in our future museum exhibits, archives or presentations.
Recently we
were able to negotiate with the Santa Margarita Water District the use of a vacant
building which contains a number of rooms with inside and outside storage areas
for our fire apparatus. This has been a huge advancement for us regarding
storage and a place to work on our fire apparatus. Plus, after some renovation,
we were able to construct a large meeting room, a tool storage and workshop
with inside storage area for some of our larger hand-drawn apparatus, such as
our 1900’s hose cart, Badger extinguisher cart and our 9/11 steel exhibit cart. This facility has also given us
a place to store all our event displays, exhibits, tables and chairs, plus all
supplies needed for our museum-without-walls events. We call our new facility
our “CFM Shop,” which is located in Mission Viejo, just off the end of La Paz
Rd. This facility has also generated
much more interest in our project with people coming by to see our apparatus
collection, volunteer their time to help out restoring, maintaining and
cleaning our fleet of apparatus. It has also given us a room where we can now
hold our monthly board meetings, store some of our records and work on
projects.
At present
we have moved 10 of our fire apparatus to our new shop location and are in the
process of moving several more. By having most of our fire apparatus in one
location, it has tremendously reduced our workload and the process of keeping
track of all of our fire apparatus. We have already had a number of work party
days where we worked on bringing the facility up to a workable condition by
painting, cleaning, organizing and updating the general appearance.
Setting up a
facility such as this, we found a huge need for all kinds of items to make it
usable and to maintain the facility and the apparatus. We put out a list of
needs to our membership and others, listing all the items needed which included
simple things like brooms, dust pans, tool racks, toolboxes, tools, ladders,
trash cans, and much more. The response was tremendous. We now have almost
everything we need to do business at our new facility. A big thanks goes out to
all who answered our request and donated items.
Orange County Great Park and our
building
We are still
working with our museum planner, Howard Lovering, of logic Inc., to get all our
ducks in a row, so we can continue raising the funds needed for our Master Plan.
Howard has put together an excellent master plan team and has estimated we will
need around $200,000 to fund the master plan. A master plan is needed before
you can do any building fund campaign. When you start asking for high-end
dollars for a building campaign, you need to show them what it is they will be
donating to, and this is where the master plan comes in. Howard has continued
to supply us with needed information and documents to present to the Great Park
on our behalf, dealing with all aspects of planning and funding for fire Museum
building.
Our plans
with the Great Park are continuing with some changes regarding the location
that was originally designated as part of our feasibility study. Due to ongoing
negotiations with Five Point Communities (Lennar), there may be some major
changes in the Great Park Master Plan that was originally put together years
ago by Ken Smith, the Great Park architect. There was talk of moving our building
location from next to the Balloon parking lot, over to the future Cultural
Terrace where the Air Museum, amphitheater, arts and culture, and other Great
Park amenities are planned in the future. However, recent plans to move OCFA
fire station 20 from its temporary location on Trabuco Road to a location
inside the Great Park, has presented some other possibilities for locating our
fire museum. CFM has been included in a meeting with the City of Irvine, Great
Park staff, Orange County Fire Authority and the Irvine Company. This meeting
is one of several planned to discuss the location of fire station 20 on Great
Park property, and also the possibility of including CFM and safety learning
center nearby. We are bringing Howard Lovering down from Seattle Washington to
attend this meeting with us to answer any in-depth questions which may arise
regarding our project.
By the time
this article is published, we should have a better idea of how things may work
out regarding this new location at the Great Park. We are hoping this can work
out to be very beneficial for CFM with hopefully some possible additional
funding towards our project. But we will have to wait and see how things pan
out.
Speaking of
funding, we would like to thank Orange County Fire Service Association for a
recent $5,000 donation to help with our ongoing expenses. We also want to thank
the Orange County Fire Authority Firefighter Union IAFF Local 3631 for an
additional $5,000 donation.
The
California Fire Museum, Orange County Division, would like to invite all Orange
County city fire departments to also participate in our project. Our plans are
to have space in our future fire museum to feature every city fire department
in Orange County. Because of the constant flux and changing of the fire
services, we feel it is very important to be able to save the history of those
departments which have been disbanded and no longer exist. They need to be
remembered for the services they provided and those who served with these city
departments. Recently, some of the oldest departments have been disbanded, such
as the Santa Ana City Fire Department, one of Orange County's oldest
departments, which originated back in 1883.
We are
looking for representatives from each existing city fire department to join
with us to help preserve and exhibit the history of your department. We are
also looking for representatives from fire departments that have been disbanded
over the past years.
City fire
departments that no longer exist include: Tustin, Seal Beach, Westminster,
Buena Park, Stanton, Placentia, San Clemente, La Habra, MCAS El Toro, MCAS Tustin.
If you have
photos, memorabilia or written history from any of the above disbanded fire
departments, or if you are with a city fire department and would like to help
with a committee to include your department in the California Fire Museum at
the Orange County Great Park, please contact Don Croucher at 949-493-8718 or
e-mail: crowncoach@aol.com. We want to include each and every fire department in Orange
County in the Orange County Fire Services history section.
Sunday, May 27, 2012
CFM May 2012 Update
California Fire Museum - Safety Learning Center, update
By: Don Croucher, President, CFM- SLC The California Fire Museum - Safety Learning Center (CFM Safety Learning Center) started its quest for a building at the former MCAS El Toro back in 1999 when the base was closed and future use was being discussed and managed by the Orange County Redevelopment Authority. Along with other interested local nonprofits, we submitted a formal letter of request to the County for possible use of an existing empty military building to house our fire museum safety learning center.
As we all know, the end result would turn out much different. After many years of elections and debates, the base was sold to a developer with a large piece of land donated for use as a park, now known as the Orange County Great Park, managed by the Great Park Corporation (GP) and the City of Irvine. Amongst all these changes, our quests for a place to house our facility did not falter. Our persistence carried us through many Great Park board meetings, stakeholder meetings, outreach seminars, special events, presentations, and all the steps it has taken to put together a world class community park. Our persistence saw us successful through the many GP selection steps, including GP Evaluation Summary, recommended for GP Schematic Design, listed as a GP Priority Program to undergo a Feasibility Study, listed as a GP Stakeholder Organization, GP approved Level-1 Feasibility Study, GP approved Level-2 Feasibility Study, GP approved 3 acres of property for our building, GP approved as a community partner for many GP events.
At present, we are halfway through a Great Park & Great Park Foundation Affiliate Agreement. Once the Affiliate Agreement is completed, we will be embarking on our seed money funding campaign to fund our Master Plan.
As we move forward in our museum planning, our next phase will be compiling our Master Plan. No building funding can be initiated until we have our Master Plan which requires a high level of expertise to assemble.
Howard Lovering of Logic, our consultant, has selected the team of experts to cover all aspects necessary to complete this Master Plan. This team has worked on some of the country’s top projects to include: Museum of Flight, Seattle Washington; Lincoln Museum, Ft Wayne, IN; National Steinbeck Center, Salinas, CA; Muhammad Ali Center, Louisville, KY; LeMay Museum of Vintage Automobiles, Tacoma, WA; McAulitte – Shepard Discovery Museum, Concord NH; Historic Belmont Safety Learning Center & Fire Museum, Portland, OR; Santa Barbara Maritime Museum, Santa Barbara, CA; UC Davis Museum of Art, Davis, CA; Northwest African American Museum; Glacier National Park St Mary Visitor Center; Grand Canyon National Park Visitor Center; Armed Forces & Aerospace Museum; Tucson Children’s Museum graphic design; The USS Missouri Memorial Interpretive Exhibits; Arches National Park, Moab, UT.
The team is assembled and ready to go to work and produce a first class CFM Safety Learning Center Master Plan which will rival any we have seen so far at the Great Park.
The Great Park staff has chosen CFM as the first program to go through the Affiliate Agreement process. GP Staff from the top down have reviewed this Affiliate Letter and has sent a DRAFT for us to go over and approve. The CFM consultant (Logic), Affiliate committee, and CFM Board have reviewed the letter, made a few suggestions and returned it to the GP Staff and are awaiting the final version. Once we have the approved CFM –GP Affiliate Agreement Letter, we will embark on an aggressive Master Plan funding campaign.
We are looking for sponsors to help us fund this Master Plan, which will cost upwards of $150,000. This is a very reasonable cost for such a project considering the quality of the team and the complexity of this Safety Learning Center, which will benefit the children of Orange County in these difficult economic times. Fire departments are cutting back on fire prevention education programs, along with firefighting personal and equipment.
This is where the CFM Safety Learning Center can be of great assistance to the community by providing a place, where children and adults alike, can come and gain knowledge regarding not only fire safety, but all aspects of safety in the home and community.
The display of historic fire equipment and memorabilia from the history of firefighting in southern California will be of community interest and help educate students of all ages on the importance of community fire safety, emergency preparedness, and injury risk reduction. The CFM-SLC is not about us, per se. It is about the community that we serve and about teaching people how to live safely and well, and to avoid risk of injury. Although the fire service plays a huge role in public safety--and that will be our emphasis--there are still numerous other agencies, such as law enforcement, utilities, Red Cross, the Emergency Management Bureau, CERT Teams, school districts, and the public themselves, who have a role as partners in community safety.
To accomplish this huge task, CFM has put together a program called the Road to Safety, which will be the focus of our Safety Learning Center. The Road to Safety will encompass all aspects of fire, home and community safety. Some of the items we will focus on in our Road to Safety will include:
Pool & Water Safety – at the pool, the beach, the river, in the home and yard
Gas & Electric Hazards – in the home, outdoors, work & play
Train & Rail Crossing Safety – trains, light rail & subways
Wildland Fire Safety & Preparedness – around the home and community
Disaster Preparedness – home, work and vacation
Fire & Burn Prevention – home, work and play
Life Safety/Hazards – falls, furniture, windows, driveway, drugs, bicyclists
Dangerous Wildlife & Gun Safety – animals, insects and guns
Emergency Vehicle Safety – pull to the right
Make the Right Call 911 – proper use and teachings
We ask, are you ready, prepared and educated on all the aspects of life safety in the home, work and play? If not, come to the CFM Safety Learning Center. When you go through the Road to Safety program, you will be much better prepared in all aspects of fire and life safety.
To better acquaint the community with our CFM Safety Center programs and plans, we have, and will continue to, participate in special events throughout southern California with our information booth, handouts and our vintage historical fire apparatus. The events include Cruisin’ for a Cure Car Show, along with many other cars shows, parades, children’s special educational events, and a number of annual events at the Orange County Great Park.
Sunday, July 31, 2011
Great Park Event July 9th
One size fits all!
Ever kid wants to be a firefighter.
Ready for the big day
Big Crowd all day.
1957 GMC/Van Pelt OES pumper on displayCFM set up a booth at this years Great Park Anniversary event on Sat. July 9th 2:00 PM to 9:30 PM. Truly a big day at the park, 25,000 in attendance. We were busy all day with the kids on the engine for parents photo op. Gave out lots of fire prevention material and CFM information & membership brochures. Had a line of people most all day.
Saturday, June 18, 2011
CFM possible new partner
The California Fire Museum (CFM) is moving ahead with our plans to locate our building at the Orange County Great Park. A possible partnership has developed with a group called the Fire Services Training Institute (FSTI) Which is the training arm of the California State Firefighters Association (CSFA)
After some talks back and forth between the two organizations it was decided that each would put together a ad-hoc committee made up of board members from each group.
FSTI and CFM had our first committee meeting on June 1st to look into how we could work together to build the fire museum safety center at the Orange County Great Park (GP) The GP gave FSTI a tour of the park and new construction projects along with a look at the land set aside for our fire museum. FSTI was impressed with the GP and the location of the fire museum. We will now work together to iron out the details of how this all will work.
FSTI has some great plans for their side of things including a fire service history library and archives plus class rooms and a conference room to accommodate their needs. We at CFM are excited about this possible partnership with FSTI and see a great opportunity to build a first class project which we both can benefit from. At present we are communicating back and forth to work out the details which hopefully will lead to a working partnership agreed to by both boards. CFM has sent FSTI a number of documents to bring them up to date on our relationship with the Great Park and where we stand on our funding campaign. Updates will follow on this site as we move forward on this partnership and project. We feel this could be something really GREAT for us and the fire service community.
For more information on FSTI see their web site at http://www.cafsti.net/ or http://www.csfa.net/.
After some talks back and forth between the two organizations it was decided that each would put together a ad-hoc committee made up of board members from each group.
FSTI and CFM had our first committee meeting on June 1st to look into how we could work together to build the fire museum safety center at the Orange County Great Park (GP) The GP gave FSTI a tour of the park and new construction projects along with a look at the land set aside for our fire museum. FSTI was impressed with the GP and the location of the fire museum. We will now work together to iron out the details of how this all will work.
FSTI has some great plans for their side of things including a fire service history library and archives plus class rooms and a conference room to accommodate their needs. We at CFM are excited about this possible partnership with FSTI and see a great opportunity to build a first class project which we both can benefit from. At present we are communicating back and forth to work out the details which hopefully will lead to a working partnership agreed to by both boards. CFM has sent FSTI a number of documents to bring them up to date on our relationship with the Great Park and where we stand on our funding campaign. Updates will follow on this site as we move forward on this partnership and project. We feel this could be something really GREAT for us and the fire service community.
For more information on FSTI see their web site at http://www.cafsti.net/ or http://www.csfa.net/.
Sunday, January 16, 2011
343 Tribute Coin Program for CFM
343 for 343+ Tribute Coin Program One Time Exclusive Offer for Fire Service Collectors
California State Firefighters Association (CSFA) and the California Fire Museum (CFM) have put together a Tribute Coin to commemorate the 10th Anniversary of September 11, 2001 tragedy. There will only be 343 coins minted to pay tribute to the New York Firefighters. The reason for the PLUS (+) on the coin is to represent both the New York Firefighters who died on 9-11 and those who are still dying from effects of the tragic 9-11 2001 event. Net proceeds from this Tribute Coin sale will go to support the California Fire Museum and Safety Learning Center in Orange County at the Great Park, who plan to include a 9-11 memorial at their completed site.
This colorful 2 1/2 inch coin is highly polished, gold plated, bright epoxy clear coated, and sequential numbered (1-343).
This "Limited Edition" Copyrighted Tribute Coin is a true collectors item.
Coins #1 and 343 are reserved. Orders for coins 2-50 will be available to individual orders only. Coins 51-343 will be available for multiple coin orders. Sorry, no credit card payments at this time.
Tribute Coin cost (each) $100.00
Tax 8.25 % (Each) $ 8.25
Shipping & Handling $ 4.25
Total single coin cost $ 112.50
Shipping for each additional coin 1.00
Please include with your payment:
Name, Fire Dept. / Organization, Shipping address, Phone, E-mail
Please make check or money order payable to: California Fire Museum, and mail order to: California Fire Museum, 10 Oak Canyon Trail, Coto de Caza, CA , 92679. For information contact: Dave Hubert at: 949 589-2444 or dhubie@cox.net
Thursday, November 11, 2010
Check out our new BLAZE page on our web site at: http://www.cafiremuseum.org/blazethedog.html
Also check the Blaze web page for events where you can come see Blaze and take a photo on the Steamer with her.
The Staemer and Blaze will be in the Rose Parade again this year.
Blaze the Fire Dog
After years of running my paws off for the California Fire Museum they finally gave me my own web site.
Come see me and be a part of a long, proud California firefighting heritage! Honor our great state's firefighters - both past and present. Watch as I educate our children in fire prevention and home safety.
*A Safety Message from Blaze*BLAZE is reminding us to “Please remember it’s time to change your smoke detector batteries!”
Sunday, October 3, 2010
Cruisin For A Cure 2010
CFM 1948 GMC x Holy Jim VFD, ORCO FD
Debbie Baker with Blaze on the Steamer
Debbie Baker event founder
Apparatus on display at Cruisin' For A Cure 2010
The California Fire Museum & the Crown Firecoach Enthusiasts attended the Annual Cruisin' For A Cure at the OC Fair Grounds in Costa Mesa. For the 11th year we have provided a ladder truck for the flag raising ceremony, antique fire trucks for the start of the cruisin' with a code 3 parade lead by the CSFA Steamer with C4C founder Debbie Baker at the lead. Also the 8 antique fire engines were on display all day. The Cruisin' For A Cure is the Nations largest one day car show. All proceeds go to Prostate Cancer Research at the City of Hope.
Code 3 Parade
Golf Cart put togather by Dallell Gilbert
for this event.
The California Fire Museum & the Crown Firecoach Enthusiasts attended the Annual Cruisin' For A Cure at the OC Fair Grounds in Costa Mesa. For the 11th year we have provided a ladder truck for the flag raising ceremony, antique fire trucks for the start of the cruisin' with a code 3 parade lead by the CSFA Steamer with C4C founder Debbie Baker at the lead. Also the 8 antique fire engines were on display all day. The Cruisin' For A Cure is the Nations largest one day car show. All proceeds go to Prostate Cancer Research at the City of Hope.
Tuesday, August 10, 2010
CFM at the Great Park
Phase One (2010–2012)
The $65.5 million Western Sector Park Development Plan encompasses more than 200 acres of the Orange County Great Park. The plan is designed to build park space that is diverse in use and appropriate to the funds available, resulting in more than 100 acres of active park space.
The project is expected to be complete in 2012, with park features being opened as they are completed. The project builds on the current park space, which will continue to be open and active with events and programming throughout construction.
The Western Sector Park Development Plan, Phase One includes the following:
Kids Rock interpretive playground near the existing Visitors Center, and the installation of the Great Park Carousel.
The Palm Court & Squadron Complex for special events and exhibitions. Existing buildings will be renovated to accommodate uses including art exhibitions and artist studios.
A South Lawn containing three lighted soccer fields and a North Lawn multi-purpose recreation field suitable for three additional soccer fields. The area will also include the fully landscaped 9-acre Timeline and a bike trail.
Structural improvements to Hangar 244, as well as a Promenade Entry and parking enhancements.
A 1.5-acre Community Garden and enhancements to the Farm & Food Lab as well as an Agricultural Pavilion.
A 14-acre Picnic Meadow.
A 100-acre Great Park Farm.
Improvements to C Street, including a new orange grove border.
Additional access and infrastructure improvements, including shade structures, trees, pedestrian and bicycle access, utilities, water recycling facilities, and additional lighting and parking.
Future Addition, Our plans are to include the California Fire Museum - Safety Learning Center to the Western Sector Development Area of the Great Park. 2.7 acres has been set aside for our planed Fire Museum - Safety Learning Center. We have now started plans to raise the five million needed to build our building on this site.
Saturday, August 7, 2010
CFM at the Great Park
Poster sign for the event
Check in booth
CFM engine on display outside Hanger 244
Some of the 40s Ford cars on display
Jim Henery in his firefighter vintage parade uniform
with the CFM mascot Blaze (stand-in)
California Fire Museum displays a 1932 Ford Model- B Fire Engine at the Great Park Festival of Time.
CFM Board member Jim Henery dressed in 1940s era firefighting parade uniform accompanied his 1932 Ford Model B /Luverne fire engine along with a number of 1940's Ford motor cars as part of the Great Park's "Festival of Time" event held at the Great Park on June 19th in and around the GP Hanger 244. The event ran from 6:30 PM to well after 9:00 PM.
CFM Board member Jim Henery dressed in 1940s era firefighting parade uniform accompanied his 1932 Ford Model B /Luverne fire engine along with a number of 1940's Ford motor cars as part of the Great Park's "Festival of Time" event held at the Great Park on June 19th in and around the GP Hanger 244. The event ran from 6:30 PM to well after 9:00 PM.
Monday, June 21, 2010
Extra - Extra Read all about it!!
California Fire Museum News Release
A California Non Profit Charitable Organization dedicated to public safety education and to preserving the history of the Fire Service in Orange County, throughout California and the nation.
An effort made possible by the merging of the Orange County Fire Historical Society and the California Fire Museum.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: June 17, 2010
CONTACT: Don Croucher, President (949) 493-8718 file:///I:/DPC%20Files/CA%20FIRE%20MUSEUM/crowncoach@aol.com
CALIFORNIA FIRE MUSEUM APPROVED FOR ORANGE COUNTY GREAT PARK
After several years of planning, the California Fire Museum and Public Safety Education Center was approved by the Orange County Great Park, Board of Directors, today as one of the first venues to be placed in the Great Park in Irvine, California.
The 31,600-square-foot facility, designed with a mix of exhibits, interactive learning facilities and multi-purpose space for classes and other events, will be located on nearly three acres adjacent to the Great Park balloon ride. The project will be built in several phases.
Phase # 1 will begin with a 5,800-square-foot "public safety education center" on 1.2 acres at an approximate $5 million price tag, with construction beginning within the next three years.
Don Croucher, President of the California Fire Museum, noted: "To be selected as one of the first venues in the Great Park is a great honor. Now the hard work begins, seeking support from all aspects of the community and the financial resources from philanthropic organizations and others required to bring this concept to reality".
The California Fire Museum and Public Safety Education Center will be the first of its kind in California and unique among similar facilities throughout the country. A premiere destination for the public and fire service professionals to engage in educational and cultural programs, the venue will provide a full range of learning experiences, using advanced technologies, to bring historical and other displays to life, and facilitated learning through the use of interactive multimedia presentations and experiences.
As one of the first to be approved by the Great Park Board, the California Fire Museum and Public Safety Education Center will serve as a preview site for those that follow and a partner in developing this park into the greatest urban park in the nation from the ground up.
Spanning more than 1,300 acres, nearly twice the size of New York’s Central Park, the Great Park will be the largest urban park in the United States. Its location, in the center of Orange County, California, situates the Great Park in a diverse metropolitan community of three million located halfway between Los Angeles and San Diego and easily accessible to more than 10,000,000 Southern California residents.
The California Fire Museum Board does not intend to wait for construction to be completed. It plans to continue the community outreach it has provided for several decades and has a list of events to be held at the Great Park in the near future and as the project is developed.
David Hubert, Vice President of the California Fire Museum, agreed with Don Croucher: "We are looking for sponsors, members and assistance from the fire service, related organizations, the public it serves and particularly those with the financial resources to bring the Public Safety Education Center to reality".
For more information and for opportunities to support and fund this effort, contact the California Fire Museum and Public Safety Education Center web site at: http://www.cafiremuseum.org/ and for information on the Orange County Great Park contact: http://www.ocgp.org/
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A California Non Profit Charitable Organization dedicated to public safety education and to preserving the history of the Fire Service in Orange County, throughout California and the nation.
An effort made possible by the merging of the Orange County Fire Historical Society and the California Fire Museum.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: June 17, 2010
CONTACT: Don Croucher, President (949) 493-8718 file:///I:/DPC%20Files/CA%20FIRE%20MUSEUM/crowncoach@aol.com
CALIFORNIA FIRE MUSEUM APPROVED FOR ORANGE COUNTY GREAT PARK
After several years of planning, the California Fire Museum and Public Safety Education Center was approved by the Orange County Great Park, Board of Directors, today as one of the first venues to be placed in the Great Park in Irvine, California.
The 31,600-square-foot facility, designed with a mix of exhibits, interactive learning facilities and multi-purpose space for classes and other events, will be located on nearly three acres adjacent to the Great Park balloon ride. The project will be built in several phases.
Phase # 1 will begin with a 5,800-square-foot "public safety education center" on 1.2 acres at an approximate $5 million price tag, with construction beginning within the next three years.
Don Croucher, President of the California Fire Museum, noted: "To be selected as one of the first venues in the Great Park is a great honor. Now the hard work begins, seeking support from all aspects of the community and the financial resources from philanthropic organizations and others required to bring this concept to reality".
The California Fire Museum and Public Safety Education Center will be the first of its kind in California and unique among similar facilities throughout the country. A premiere destination for the public and fire service professionals to engage in educational and cultural programs, the venue will provide a full range of learning experiences, using advanced technologies, to bring historical and other displays to life, and facilitated learning through the use of interactive multimedia presentations and experiences.
As one of the first to be approved by the Great Park Board, the California Fire Museum and Public Safety Education Center will serve as a preview site for those that follow and a partner in developing this park into the greatest urban park in the nation from the ground up.
Spanning more than 1,300 acres, nearly twice the size of New York’s Central Park, the Great Park will be the largest urban park in the United States. Its location, in the center of Orange County, California, situates the Great Park in a diverse metropolitan community of three million located halfway between Los Angeles and San Diego and easily accessible to more than 10,000,000 Southern California residents.
The California Fire Museum Board does not intend to wait for construction to be completed. It plans to continue the community outreach it has provided for several decades and has a list of events to be held at the Great Park in the near future and as the project is developed.
David Hubert, Vice President of the California Fire Museum, agreed with Don Croucher: "We are looking for sponsors, members and assistance from the fire service, related organizations, the public it serves and particularly those with the financial resources to bring the Public Safety Education Center to reality".
For more information and for opportunities to support and fund this effort, contact the California Fire Museum and Public Safety Education Center web site at: http://www.cafiremuseum.org/ and for information on the Orange County Great Park contact: http://www.ocgp.org/
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Tuesday, June 15, 2010
Great Park Feasibility Presentation June 17th
From: Don Croucher, CFM / OCFHS
Subject: Re-Presentation of our Great Park Feasibility Study
Well it's that time again. This week on Thursday June 17 our Priority Program Feasibility Study (PPFS) will be presented again to the Great Park Board at their June Board Meeting. Our first PPFS Presentation was on January 28, 2010. At this meeting our Feasibility Study was not approved and was continued to a future Great Park Board meeting. Our PPFS was stalled for a time due to some changes in the Great Park Design Studio staff. Over the past few months we have been working to update our PPFS with more emphasis on the phasing of the building size and funds needed to build.
We encourage all interested parties to attend this GP Board meeting in support of our Fire Museum and Safety Learning Center at the Great Park. You can view the GP Board meeting Agenda on the Great Park web site at: www.ocgp.org. On the GP web site, click on ABOUT, then "Board Meetings", look under "Upcoming Board Meetings" click on June 17 AGENDA. On the AGENDA, go down to item number 5, Click on the blue highlighted heading, Our PDF file will appear in the "Supporting Materials box on the right. Click on the PDF symbol. This will take you to our GP Board Presentation documents such as, Recommended action, Executive Summary and a map of our new location. This will give you a good perspective on what our Feasibility Study (PPFS) is all about. At least this time we are the first item under Business after the Consent Calendar.
You could also send an e-mail to the Great Park Board, in support of our Fire Museum / Safety Center at the Great Park. To send a support e-mail go to their web site at www.ocgp.org and click on ABOUT then click on CONTACT to leave a message. Or send a e-mail to Irvine Mayor Kang at: sukheekang@ci.irvine.ca.us
The Great Park is looking for projects with community support, so please send a message or attend the GP Board meeting on June 17, 10 AM at the Irvine City Hall in the Council Chambers.
We need your support to make this happen!!
Subject: Re-Presentation of our Great Park Feasibility Study
Well it's that time again. This week on Thursday June 17 our Priority Program Feasibility Study (PPFS) will be presented again to the Great Park Board at their June Board Meeting. Our first PPFS Presentation was on January 28, 2010. At this meeting our Feasibility Study was not approved and was continued to a future Great Park Board meeting. Our PPFS was stalled for a time due to some changes in the Great Park Design Studio staff. Over the past few months we have been working to update our PPFS with more emphasis on the phasing of the building size and funds needed to build.
We encourage all interested parties to attend this GP Board meeting in support of our Fire Museum and Safety Learning Center at the Great Park. You can view the GP Board meeting Agenda on the Great Park web site at: www.ocgp.org. On the GP web site, click on ABOUT, then "Board Meetings", look under "Upcoming Board Meetings" click on June 17 AGENDA. On the AGENDA, go down to item number 5, Click on the blue highlighted heading, Our PDF file will appear in the "Supporting Materials box on the right. Click on the PDF symbol. This will take you to our GP Board Presentation documents such as, Recommended action, Executive Summary and a map of our new location. This will give you a good perspective on what our Feasibility Study (PPFS) is all about. At least this time we are the first item under Business after the Consent Calendar.
You could also send an e-mail to the Great Park Board, in support of our Fire Museum / Safety Center at the Great Park. To send a support e-mail go to their web site at www.ocgp.org and click on ABOUT then click on CONTACT to leave a message. Or send a e-mail to Irvine Mayor Kang at: sukheekang@ci.irvine.ca.us
The Great Park is looking for projects with community support, so please send a message or attend the GP Board meeting on June 17, 10 AM at the Irvine City Hall in the Council Chambers.
We need your support to make this happen!!
Monday, May 17, 2010
CFM Great Park Feasibility Study
Great Park CFM Feasibility Study Update
Things are finally kicking into high gear for our Fire Museum & Safety Learning Center at the Orange County Great Park. After our January 28th Feasibility Study Presentation to the Great Park Board was continued to a future GP Board meeting, things had been moving a little slow.
Our Feasibility Study needed to be reworked with more emphasis on the phasing of our building to cut down on the 30,000 Sq Ft size and the need for millions in funding. The reworked Feasibility Study will feature a more modest 5,000 to 10,000 Sq. Ft. first phase building that will put our project more in line with today’s weak economy and available funds.
After several months we were concerned over the lack of any rescheduling of our feasibility study meetings and nothing on the GP Board meeting agendas about the funding of our continued feasibility study.
On Thursday, May 7, a meeting was held at the Great Park Corporate offices with the Great Park CEO, Deputy CEO and Design Studio.
The discussion started with the subject of our feasibility study being brought up at the April GP Board meeting and went on to say they agree something needs to be done to get our feasibility study finished and presented to the GP Board. They also wanted to make sure we did not head in the wrong direction and get involved in any bad politics or misunderstandings regarding our project with the Great Park. They wanted to assure us they were absolutely on our side and will be making sure our feasibility study would be finished in a timely manner. They explained the delay in finishing up our feasibility study was due to the ending of the contract with the Design Studio and the transitioning of all the feasibility studies, including finishing ours, to the new company, WRNS Studio. WRNS is the company which will be responsible for the construction phase of the Great Park, as well as the existing and future feasibility studies. They wanted to reassure us the delay in no way was because they had lost interest in our project. The transition also required new contracts and realigning the funding to cover the cost of all the feasibility studies and lining up the new team with which studies they would be working on.
They then asked if we had anything to say on the matter of our feasibility study. We told them how hard it was to keep our following interested year after year as we progress through this very lengthy process. We explained how long we had been involved dating back the closing of the base in the late ‘90s and our first attempt with the Orange County Redevelopment Agency, our first presentation to the Great Park Conservancy. We felt there could have been a little more information given to us as to what was going on after the Feasibility Presentation was continued to a future GP Board meeting. The lack of information led us to think there may be other reasons for not continuing our study. Such as, we did not fit the political image or not having the funding needed to finance our high-end project. We also explained how we were waiting for something from the Great Park to show we were accepted as a viable project with space set aside for our building. Something we could give to corporate sponsors or to include in our grant writing.
They assured us they have been working on our feasibility study and have a partial draft in the works on our phasing of the building. They are looking at two or three phases depending on what we feel would work. A suggested 5,000 Sq Ft first phase with a follow-up phase of maybe 10,000, depending how the first phase works out funding-wise. We mentioned we are willing to start out with the 5,000 Sq Ft as long as we are guaranteed the same land space to allow future expansion up to the original 30,000 Sq Ft. We just wanted to make sure we have the space for future expansion, plus space for outside events and exhibits.
We also discussed with them our need for more information regarding fund-raising aspects on Great Park property. IE, if a corporate sponsor wanted to donate $10 million towards our building and in return wanted their name displayed on the outside of the building, much like the corporate world does for the sports stadiums (Staple Center, Honda Center) Their answer to this was they are working with CHORA, the company they hired to come up with funding opportunities for the Great Park. CHORA is putting together guidelines dealing with this very item. They are about 75% complete on the guidelines. There was a lot of discussion on this item as it has come up for many of the other groups and their feasibility studies. It was also suggested we have a meeting with CHORA to discuss our funding possibilities. This may happen next week as CHORA will be in town to meet with the Great Park people. We need more positive input from them so we can further our fund-raising plans. They felt some of the answers we are looking for could come from our meeting with CHORA and the CHORA guidelines once completed.
They wanted to make sure we still put a positive foot forward and not cut back too much because of the feasibility study not being accepted at the January GP Board meeting.
We asked what our next step is after our feasibility study is approved. Do we need to provide a master plan or a proposal for the land and how we plan to raise the funds or what? They said because this is a public project, we need to move forward cautiously and they must be carful what they commit to. They felt we should concentrate on getting our feasibility study approved. With this we will have a better opportunity to move forward and other opportunities will open as a result of our feasibility study being approved by the GP Board.
They also felt that we may have entered into our bid for a place in the Great Park too early in the game. We responded with us being a grass roots organization it was difficult to know when was the right time. So we had followed this project from even before the Great Park was a reality and was under the control of the County.
We did not want to wait and then enter too late as there was a huge interest by many groups from around the county wanting in on the ground floor at the Great Park. We feel our persistence, determination and perseverance has paid off in the long run. Those with a huge endowment can afford to take a different approach and still get in at the last minute.
They did say the time is right now as great things are beginning to happen at the Great Park with the beginning of the construction phase. So much so, many organizations who stepped back in the beginning are now coming back looking to be included in the park.
They look at us as a project they very much want to see become a part of the Great Park and we are in a very good position to make this happen. They see us as one of the groups (fire, police and military) which people look favorable towards, therefore want to make sure these groups are represented in the Great Park.
In closing, they want to set up several meetings with us and WRNS Studio, the new group facilitating the feasibility studies, in the next several weeks to finish up our feasibility study in preparation for the June 17 Great Park Board meeting. They emphasized, the most important item right now is to get this feasibility study completed and approved by the GP Board. Then we can move on to bigger and better things.
Mark your calendar for June 17, 10 AM for our Great Park Board Meeting Presentation at Irvine City Hall.
Things are finally kicking into high gear for our Fire Museum & Safety Learning Center at the Orange County Great Park. After our January 28th Feasibility Study Presentation to the Great Park Board was continued to a future GP Board meeting, things had been moving a little slow.
Our Feasibility Study needed to be reworked with more emphasis on the phasing of our building to cut down on the 30,000 Sq Ft size and the need for millions in funding. The reworked Feasibility Study will feature a more modest 5,000 to 10,000 Sq. Ft. first phase building that will put our project more in line with today’s weak economy and available funds.
After several months we were concerned over the lack of any rescheduling of our feasibility study meetings and nothing on the GP Board meeting agendas about the funding of our continued feasibility study.
On Thursday, May 7, a meeting was held at the Great Park Corporate offices with the Great Park CEO, Deputy CEO and Design Studio.
The discussion started with the subject of our feasibility study being brought up at the April GP Board meeting and went on to say they agree something needs to be done to get our feasibility study finished and presented to the GP Board. They also wanted to make sure we did not head in the wrong direction and get involved in any bad politics or misunderstandings regarding our project with the Great Park. They wanted to assure us they were absolutely on our side and will be making sure our feasibility study would be finished in a timely manner. They explained the delay in finishing up our feasibility study was due to the ending of the contract with the Design Studio and the transitioning of all the feasibility studies, including finishing ours, to the new company, WRNS Studio. WRNS is the company which will be responsible for the construction phase of the Great Park, as well as the existing and future feasibility studies. They wanted to reassure us the delay in no way was because they had lost interest in our project. The transition also required new contracts and realigning the funding to cover the cost of all the feasibility studies and lining up the new team with which studies they would be working on.
They then asked if we had anything to say on the matter of our feasibility study. We told them how hard it was to keep our following interested year after year as we progress through this very lengthy process. We explained how long we had been involved dating back the closing of the base in the late ‘90s and our first attempt with the Orange County Redevelopment Agency, our first presentation to the Great Park Conservancy. We felt there could have been a little more information given to us as to what was going on after the Feasibility Presentation was continued to a future GP Board meeting. The lack of information led us to think there may be other reasons for not continuing our study. Such as, we did not fit the political image or not having the funding needed to finance our high-end project. We also explained how we were waiting for something from the Great Park to show we were accepted as a viable project with space set aside for our building. Something we could give to corporate sponsors or to include in our grant writing.
They assured us they have been working on our feasibility study and have a partial draft in the works on our phasing of the building. They are looking at two or three phases depending on what we feel would work. A suggested 5,000 Sq Ft first phase with a follow-up phase of maybe 10,000, depending how the first phase works out funding-wise. We mentioned we are willing to start out with the 5,000 Sq Ft as long as we are guaranteed the same land space to allow future expansion up to the original 30,000 Sq Ft. We just wanted to make sure we have the space for future expansion, plus space for outside events and exhibits.
We also discussed with them our need for more information regarding fund-raising aspects on Great Park property. IE, if a corporate sponsor wanted to donate $10 million towards our building and in return wanted their name displayed on the outside of the building, much like the corporate world does for the sports stadiums (Staple Center, Honda Center) Their answer to this was they are working with CHORA, the company they hired to come up with funding opportunities for the Great Park. CHORA is putting together guidelines dealing with this very item. They are about 75% complete on the guidelines. There was a lot of discussion on this item as it has come up for many of the other groups and their feasibility studies. It was also suggested we have a meeting with CHORA to discuss our funding possibilities. This may happen next week as CHORA will be in town to meet with the Great Park people. We need more positive input from them so we can further our fund-raising plans. They felt some of the answers we are looking for could come from our meeting with CHORA and the CHORA guidelines once completed.
They wanted to make sure we still put a positive foot forward and not cut back too much because of the feasibility study not being accepted at the January GP Board meeting.
We asked what our next step is after our feasibility study is approved. Do we need to provide a master plan or a proposal for the land and how we plan to raise the funds or what? They said because this is a public project, we need to move forward cautiously and they must be carful what they commit to. They felt we should concentrate on getting our feasibility study approved. With this we will have a better opportunity to move forward and other opportunities will open as a result of our feasibility study being approved by the GP Board.
They also felt that we may have entered into our bid for a place in the Great Park too early in the game. We responded with us being a grass roots organization it was difficult to know when was the right time. So we had followed this project from even before the Great Park was a reality and was under the control of the County.
We did not want to wait and then enter too late as there was a huge interest by many groups from around the county wanting in on the ground floor at the Great Park. We feel our persistence, determination and perseverance has paid off in the long run. Those with a huge endowment can afford to take a different approach and still get in at the last minute.
They did say the time is right now as great things are beginning to happen at the Great Park with the beginning of the construction phase. So much so, many organizations who stepped back in the beginning are now coming back looking to be included in the park.
They look at us as a project they very much want to see become a part of the Great Park and we are in a very good position to make this happen. They see us as one of the groups (fire, police and military) which people look favorable towards, therefore want to make sure these groups are represented in the Great Park.
In closing, they want to set up several meetings with us and WRNS Studio, the new group facilitating the feasibility studies, in the next several weeks to finish up our feasibility study in preparation for the June 17 Great Park Board meeting. They emphasized, the most important item right now is to get this feasibility study completed and approved by the GP Board. Then we can move on to bigger and better things.
Mark your calendar for June 17, 10 AM for our Great Park Board Meeting Presentation at Irvine City Hall.
Saturday, May 1, 2010
Great Park Feasibility Study Update
Great Park Fire Museum – Safety Center Feasibility Study
Here is an update on how we are doing with our Feasibility Study for the Orange County Great Park.
Since our Feasibility Study Presentation to the Great Park Board on January 28, where it was recommended the matter be continued to a meeting in March, nothing has taken place as of yet.
We have had one meeting with the Great Park Design Studio after the presentation which was not very productive. At this meeting a discussion was held regarding a new approach which included a phasing of the building plans. A future meeting was scheduled to further discuss this phasing plan. Also the presentation of our reworked plan was tentatively set for the May 20 Great Park Board meeting.
We were then notified that our next Design Studio meeting would be canceled and the May 20 date for our presentation would have to be postponed to a future Great Park Board meeting.
The reason given for no further GP Design Studio meetings and the postponement of our May 20 presentation was because the GP Design Studio had run out of funds to work on our feasibility study. This meant they would have to return to the Great Park Board to request addition funds to complete our unfinished Fire Museum – Safety Center Feasibility Study.
To date we have seen no item in the Great Park Board Meeting Agendas to indicate this request for additional funds for our study was forth coming??
Last week I had a meeting with a GP Board member to see if I could gain any insight on our feasibility study. Nothing has been discussed at any past board briefings or from any other board members regarding our future return to the board. I asked if this could be brought up at the April 22 GP Board meeting. It is felt the Board and Design Studio is overwhelmed with all the feasibility studies and the change from design to construction phase at the Great Park. Most of the board is unaware of our “no funds available” aspect regarding our feasibility study. Some board members have not seen a copy of our 265 page feasibility study book.
I attended the April 22 Great Park Board meeting and did hear some discussion regarding our feasibility study and why it had not been rescheduled. Chair Agran commented that we were over due for our return and hoped it could be scheduled for the May board meeting.
After the meeting was adjourned I spoke with several board members who were surprised and unaware of the insufficient funds to continue our feasibility study and suggested I talk to Assist. CEO Cliff Wallace. I did talked to Cliff Wallace and he indicated he would see what he can do to get this back on track.
Yesterday I sent a e-mail to the GP Design Studio to see if they had any updated information on our study. There reply stated, “ we are working on another strategy, will have to get back to you at a later date. We want to assure you your project is forefront in our plans.
Stay tuned for any further updates also on Twitter and Facebook.
Here is an update on how we are doing with our Feasibility Study for the Orange County Great Park.
Since our Feasibility Study Presentation to the Great Park Board on January 28, where it was recommended the matter be continued to a meeting in March, nothing has taken place as of yet.
We have had one meeting with the Great Park Design Studio after the presentation which was not very productive. At this meeting a discussion was held regarding a new approach which included a phasing of the building plans. A future meeting was scheduled to further discuss this phasing plan. Also the presentation of our reworked plan was tentatively set for the May 20 Great Park Board meeting.
We were then notified that our next Design Studio meeting would be canceled and the May 20 date for our presentation would have to be postponed to a future Great Park Board meeting.
The reason given for no further GP Design Studio meetings and the postponement of our May 20 presentation was because the GP Design Studio had run out of funds to work on our feasibility study. This meant they would have to return to the Great Park Board to request addition funds to complete our unfinished Fire Museum – Safety Center Feasibility Study.
To date we have seen no item in the Great Park Board Meeting Agendas to indicate this request for additional funds for our study was forth coming??
Last week I had a meeting with a GP Board member to see if I could gain any insight on our feasibility study. Nothing has been discussed at any past board briefings or from any other board members regarding our future return to the board. I asked if this could be brought up at the April 22 GP Board meeting. It is felt the Board and Design Studio is overwhelmed with all the feasibility studies and the change from design to construction phase at the Great Park. Most of the board is unaware of our “no funds available” aspect regarding our feasibility study. Some board members have not seen a copy of our 265 page feasibility study book.
I attended the April 22 Great Park Board meeting and did hear some discussion regarding our feasibility study and why it had not been rescheduled. Chair Agran commented that we were over due for our return and hoped it could be scheduled for the May board meeting.
After the meeting was adjourned I spoke with several board members who were surprised and unaware of the insufficient funds to continue our feasibility study and suggested I talk to Assist. CEO Cliff Wallace. I did talked to Cliff Wallace and he indicated he would see what he can do to get this back on track.
Yesterday I sent a e-mail to the GP Design Studio to see if they had any updated information on our study. There reply stated, “ we are working on another strategy, will have to get back to you at a later date. We want to assure you your project is forefront in our plans.
Stay tuned for any further updates also on Twitter and Facebook.
Friday, February 5, 2010
The Great Parg Board Meeting
CFM Great Park Board meeting Feasibility Study Presentation:
The Great Park Board meeting, where our long awaited Fire Museum Feasibility Study was presented to the GP Board, was held last Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 10 AM. After a long morning of listing to other presentations to the board, our presentation was last on the agenda, we finally heard the GP Design Studio present our Priority Program Feasibility Study (PPFS) Fire Museum & Safety Learning Center: Findings from second level analysis; and next phase recommendations. The presentation to the GP Board was only a short overview of the 290 page Feasibility Study report given to each board member a week ago.
The outcome of this meeting was not what we were expecting. After a long dissertation by each GP Board member, some a little confusing in my opinion and some off the subject at hand, the board voted to bring this item back to the board after 60 days.
To view the GP Board meeting video,with our CFM presentation, on the Great Park web site follow the instructions below.
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Here is the path to the Priority Programs Feasibility Study (PPFS)- Fire Museum & Safety Learning Center.
1. click on: http://www.ocgp.org/
2. Locate and click on the top, brown tab named "ABOUT" and pull downand select Board Meetings
3. Once on the Board meeting site, scroll down to January 28, 2010 andscroll over to far right and click on VIDEO (orange)
4. Once the video starts, Click on the black 'down' arrow in the box "Jump To..." and choose#10 (Priority Programs Feasibility Study)
5. The video will move to our Priority Program Feasibility Presentation. (Minute counter at right should read 1:23:19)
This will allow you to view the entire GP Design Studio presentation for our fire museum safety center, each GP Board member comments, Public comments by Ronny Coleman, Dan Coffman and Don Croucher, Chair Agran discussion, my ending clarification comments and the final vote.
Don Forsyth could not attend the board meeting, but did send in a letter of support from the Orange County Fire Historical Society.
This entire fire museum segment of the Great Park Board meeting takes 1 hour, 31 minutes.
The next GP board meeting, when we will be heard again, will be in March (60 days).
We will go over the board comments and our next step in this process at our January 25 CFM Board meeting.
If you have any questions contact:
Don Croucher, President
California Fire Museum Public Safety Education Center
Orange County Fire Historical Society
crowncoach@aol.com
www.californiafiremuseum.com
The Great Park Board meeting, where our long awaited Fire Museum Feasibility Study was presented to the GP Board, was held last Thursday, January 28, 2010 at 10 AM. After a long morning of listing to other presentations to the board, our presentation was last on the agenda, we finally heard the GP Design Studio present our Priority Program Feasibility Study (PPFS) Fire Museum & Safety Learning Center: Findings from second level analysis; and next phase recommendations. The presentation to the GP Board was only a short overview of the 290 page Feasibility Study report given to each board member a week ago.
The outcome of this meeting was not what we were expecting. After a long dissertation by each GP Board member, some a little confusing in my opinion and some off the subject at hand, the board voted to bring this item back to the board after 60 days.
To view the GP Board meeting video,with our CFM presentation, on the Great Park web site follow the instructions below.
***************************************************************************************
Here is the path to the Priority Programs Feasibility Study (PPFS)- Fire Museum & Safety Learning Center.
1. click on: http://www.ocgp.org/
2. Locate and click on the top, brown tab named "ABOUT" and pull downand select Board Meetings
3. Once on the Board meeting site, scroll down to January 28, 2010 andscroll over to far right and click on VIDEO (orange)
4. Once the video starts, Click on the black 'down' arrow in the box "Jump To..." and choose#10 (Priority Programs Feasibility Study)
5. The video will move to our Priority Program Feasibility Presentation. (Minute counter at right should read 1:23:19)
This will allow you to view the entire GP Design Studio presentation for our fire museum safety center, each GP Board member comments, Public comments by Ronny Coleman, Dan Coffman and Don Croucher, Chair Agran discussion, my ending clarification comments and the final vote.
Don Forsyth could not attend the board meeting, but did send in a letter of support from the Orange County Fire Historical Society.
This entire fire museum segment of the Great Park Board meeting takes 1 hour, 31 minutes.
The next GP board meeting, when we will be heard again, will be in March (60 days).
We will go over the board comments and our next step in this process at our January 25 CFM Board meeting.
If you have any questions contact:
Don Croucher, President
California Fire Museum Public Safety Education Center
Orange County Fire Historical Society
crowncoach@aol.com
www.californiafiremuseum.com
Wednesday, January 27, 2010
OUR BIG DAY
Tomorrow, Thursday, Jan 28th is our BIG DAY at the Great Park Board meeting, 10 AM, at the Irvine City Hall. The Great Park Design studio will present our Feasibility Study to the GP Board. We need everyone to come and show support for our Fire Museum Safety Center project. Please bring an old fire helmet to show your support. We have been working at this for over 5 years!! A positive vote from the GP Board will set aside space at the Great Park for our fire museum safety center.
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